Chapter 5
"I do not know what your opinion may be, Mrs. Weston," said Mr.
Knightley, "of this great intimacy between Emma and Harriet Smith,
but I think it a bad thing."
"A bad thing! Do you really think it a bad thing?—why so?"
"I think they will neither of them do the other any good."
"You surprize me! Emma must do Harriet good: and by supplying
her with a new object of interest, Harriet may be said to do Emma
good. I have been seeing their intimacy with the greatest pleasure.
How very differently we feel!—Not think they will do each other any
good! This will certainly be the beginning of one of our quarrels
about Emma, Mr. Knightley."
"Perhaps you think I am come on purpose to quarrel with you,
knowing Weston to be out, and that you must still fight your own
battle."
"Mr. Weston would undoubtedly support me, if he were here, for
he thinks exactly as I do on the subject. We were speaking of it
only yesterday, and agreeing how fortunate it was for Emma, that
there should be such a girl in Highbury for her to associate with.
Mr. Knightley, I shall not allow you to be a fair judge in this
case. You are so much used to live alone, that you do not know the
value of a companion; and, perhaps no man can be a good judge of
the comfort a woman feels in the society of one of her own s*x,
after being used to it all her life. I can imagine your objection
to Harriet Smith. She is not the superior young woman which Emma's
friend ought to be. But on the other hand, as Emma wants to see her
better informed, it will be an inducement to her to read more
herself. They will read together. She means it, I know."
"Emma has been meaning to read more ever since she was twelve
years old. I have seen a great many lists of her drawing-up at
various times of books that she meant to read regularly through—and
very good lists they were—very well chosen, and very neatly
arranged—sometimes alphabetically, and sometimes by some other
rule. The list she drew up when only fourteen—I remember thinking
it did her judgment so much credit, that I preserved it some time;
and I dare say she may have made out a very good list now. But I
have done with expecting any course of steady reading from Emma.
She will never submit to any thing requiring industry and patience,
and a subjection of the fancy to the understanding. Where Miss
Taylor failed to stimulate, I may safely affirm that Harriet Smith
will do nothing.—You never could persuade her to read half so much
as you wished.—You know you could not."
"I dare say," replied Mrs. Weston, smiling, "that I thought so
then;—but since we have parted, I can never remember Emma's
omitting to do any thing I wished."
"There is hardly any desiring to refresh such a memory as
that,"—said Mr. Knightley, feelingly; and for a moment or two he
had done. "But I," he soon added, "who have had no such charm
thrown over my senses, must still see, hear, and remember. Emma is
spoiled by being the cleverest of her family. At ten years old, she
had the misfortune of being able to answer questions which puzzled
her sister at seventeen. She was always quick and assured: Isabella
slow and diffident. And ever since she was twelve, Emma has been
mistress of the house and of you all. In her mother she lost the
only person able to cope with her. She inherits her mother's
talents, and must have been under subjection to her."
"I should have been sorry, Mr. Knightley, to be dependent on
your recommendation, had I quitted Mr. Woodhouse's family and
wanted another situation; I do not think you would have spoken a
good word for me to any body. I am sure you always thought me unfit
for the office I held."
"Yes," said he, smiling. "You are better placed here; very fit
for a wife, but not at all for a governess. But you were preparing
yourself to be an excellent wife all the time you were at
Hartfield. You might not give Emma such a complete education as
your powers would seem to promise; but you were receiving a very
good education from her, on the very material matrimonial point of
submitting your own will, and doing as you were bid; and if Weston
had asked me to recommend him a wife, I should certainly have named
Miss Taylor."
"Thank you. There will be very little merit in making a good
wife to such a man as Mr. Weston."
"Why, to own the truth, I am afraid you are rather thrown away,
and that with every disposition to bear, there will be nothing to
be borne. We will not despair, however. Weston may grow cross from
the wantonness of comfort, or his son may plague him."
"I hope not that.—It is not likely. No, Mr. Knightley, do not
foretell vexation from that quarter."
"Not I, indeed. I only name possibilities. I do not pretend to
Emma's genius for foretelling and guessing. I hope, with all my
heart, the young man may be a Weston in merit, and a Churchill in
fortune.—But Harriet Smith—I have not half done about Harriet
Smith. I think her the very worst sort of companion that Emma could
possibly have. She knows nothing herself, and looks upon Emma as
knowing every thing. She is a flatterer in all her ways; and so
much the worse, because undesigned. Her ignorance is hourly
flattery. How can Emma imagine she has any thing to learn herself,
while Harriet is presenting such a delightful inferiority? And as
for Harriet, I will venture to say that she cannot gain by the
acquaintance. Hartfield will only put her out of conceit with all
the other places she belongs to. She will grow just refined enough
to be uncomfortable with those among whom birth and circumstances
have placed her home. I am much mistaken if Emma's doctrines give
any strength of mind, or tend at all to make a girl adapt herself
rationally to the varieties of her situation in life.—They only
give a little polish."
"I either depend more upon Emma's good sense than you do, or am
more anxious for her present comfort; for I cannot lament the
acquaintance. How well she looked last night!"
"Oh! you would rather talk of her person than her mind, would
you? Very well; I shall not attempt to deny Emma's being
pretty."
"Pretty! say beautiful rather. Can you imagine any thing nearer
perfect beauty than Emma altogether—face and figure?"
"I do not know what I could imagine, but I confess that I have
seldom seen a face or figure more pleasing to me than hers. But I
am a partial old friend."
"Such an eye!—the true hazle eye—and so brilliant! regular
features, open countenance, with a complexion! oh! what a bloom of
full health, and such a pretty height and size; such a firm and
upright figure! There is health, not merely in her bloom, but in
her air, her head, her glance. One hears sometimes of a child being
`the picture of health;' now, Emma always gives me the idea of
being the complete picture of grown-up health. She is loveliness
itself. Mr. Knightley, is not she?"
"I have not a fault to find with her person," he replied. "I
think her all you describe. I love to look at her; and I will add
this praise, that I do not think her personally vain. Considering
how very handsome she is, she appears to be little occupied with
it; her vanity lies another way. Mrs. Weston, I am not to be talked
out of my dislike of Harriet Smith, or my dread of its doing them
both harm."
"And I, Mr. Knightley, am equally stout in my confidence of its
not doing them any harm. With all dear Emma's little faults, she is
an excellent creature. Where shall we see a better daughter, or a
kinder sister, or a truer friend? No, no; she has qualities which
may be trusted; she will never lead any one really wrong; she will
make no lasting blunder; where Emma errs once, she is in the right
a hundred times."
"Very well; I will not plague you any more. Emma shall be an
angel, and I will keep my spleen to myself till Christmas brings
John and Isabella. John loves Emma with a reasonable and therefore
not a blind affection, and Isabella always thinks as he does;
except when he is not quite frightened enough about the children. I
am sure of having their opinions with me."
"I know that you all love her really too well to be unjust or
unkind; but excuse me, Mr. Knightley, if I take the liberty (I
consider myself, you know, as having somewhat of the privilege of
speech that Emma's mother might have had) the liberty of hinting
that I do not think any possible good can arise from Harriet
Smith's intimacy being made a matter of much discussion among you.
Pray excuse me; but supposing any little inconvenience may be
apprehended from the intimacy, it cannot be expected that Emma,
accountable to nobody but her father, who perfectly approves the
acquaintance, should put an end to it, so long as it is a source of
pleasure to herself. It has been so many years my province to give
advice, that you cannot be surprized, Mr. Knightley, at this little
remains of office."
"Not at all," cried he; "I am much obliged to you for it. It is
very good advice, and it shall have a better fate than your advice
has often found; for it shall be attended to."
"Mrs. John Knightley is easily alarmed, and might be made
unhappy about her sister."
"Be satisfied," said he, "I will not raise any outcry. I will
keep my ill-humour to myself. I have a very sincere interest in
Emma. Isabella does not seem more my sister; has never excited a
greater interest; perhaps hardly so great. There is an anxiety, a
curiosity in what one feels for Emma. I wonder what will become of
her!"
"So do I," said Mrs. Weston gently, "very much."
"She always declares she will never marry, which, of course,
means just nothing at all. But I have no idea that she has yet ever
seen a man she cared for. It would not be a bad thing for her to be
very much in love with a proper object. I should like to see Emma
in love, and in some doubt of a return; it would do her good. But
there is nobody hereabouts to attach her; and she goes so seldom
from home."
"There does, indeed, seem as little to tempt her to break her
resolution at present," said Mrs. Weston, "as can well be; and
while she is so happy at Hartfield, I cannot wish her to be forming
any attachment which would be creating such difficulties on poor
Mr. Woodhouse's account. I do not recommend matrimony at present to
Emma, though I mean no slight to the state, I assure you."
Part of her meaning was to conceal some favourite thoughts of
her own and Mr. Weston's on the subject, as much as possible. There
were wishes at Randalls respecting Emma's destiny, but it was not
desirable to have them suspected; and the quiet transition which
Mr. Knightley soon afterwards made to "What does Weston think of
the weather; shall we have rain?" convinced her that he had nothing
more to say or surmise about Hartfield.